Is Obama the Anti-Christ?

[Ras Brandon]

What do InI think, and I am just throwing this discussion out there as ones n ones have already thought of these things before InI, it is just that Iman can sight were the theories are relevant to scripture!!!

Jah prayers and itection,

Ras Brandon

[omarijaffe / oasis1]

wow , wow i really can't say if obama is the anti- . to me all governments are the same.
being rasta is to be free from the system, free from government. so i am not worried about the new world order. only order is my own . my life my death . only jah "creator of the universe " guide my soul

[Ingmar Northcott]

"being rasta is to free from the system, free from government." Yes, but only free in a certain sense. When you say system, I hear "the powers-that-be"; i.e. the men (people) of wealth and power that make the big decisions for our world and their particular countries, e.g. President Bush's decision to invade Iraq without endorsement from the United Nations Security Council. These would include presumably the heads of mega multinational corporations, who contribute substantially to political campaigns, enjoy the attentive ears of politicians, and have their corporate interests made into policy by these politicians, who themselves cycle from being CEOs of corporations or otherwise highly placed business figures into positions of power; e.g. Dick Cheney having to resign his CEO-ship of Halliburton to become Vice-President of the U.S. The fact of the matter, to cut to the chase, is that these people, these people of power and wealth, and their decisions affects everybody's life. You might be spiritually free from the system, but as long as you have a body and a life in time on this planet, your life is not free of their influence, of their iniquities, and their injustice. Let's just assume, then, that the Hurricane Katrina devastation of New Orleans was a result of Global Warming, and as well the cataclysmic Tsunami disasters of the South Asian seas in the same year. If Global Warming is a consequence of the behavior of corporations, and the consumers of their products, then we can see quite clearly how important to the physical happiness of people on this planet are the decisions, actions, products, and allegiances of people of power and wealth. Furthermore, the inadequate response of the Federal Government of the U.S. to the Katrina disaster, and the impact that this non-action had on the victims of that disaster which I n I witnessed in the first three days of the tragedy via television imagery further hits home the relative condition of slavery our lives have to those with more in this world, more power, and more money. Look at Bob Marley and the Wailers. Were these Rastas free of the system? No, when they were first developing as a band, as has been well documented, they had to struggle not to be cheated out of money by corrupt music producers. And when Bob became an international superstar, I'll bet he didn't burn his paychecks because he was free of the system, and free from government (though he did do some free concerts I hear and that's great!). All of my discussion so far is to warn against what I would call "spiritual aloofness": that is, if one has discovered some important truths about peace and tranquility of mind apart from the evils of society including politics and money concerns, one might be tempted, then, to adopt an attitude of indifference, and noninvolvement in movements for positive political change. But this would be to be condemned to a fate of political irrelevance, and certainly this isn't Rasta or in keeping with the foundations of Rastafari. Haile Selassie I was the emperor of Ethiopia after all; would his goverment be one of those that are the same as all governments? Take a look at Bob Marley and the Wailers' music: Could we say that songs such as "Them Belly Full (but we hungry)", "Burnin' and Lootin'", and "Get Up, Stand Up" are politically irrelevant? The answer is clear. We should be free of the corruption, both mental and physical, that we witness in the daily lives of politicians and the rich fat-cats of the world, but we should seek and act to help these people, and the world through agitating for political reform. This is part of the reason why I support Barack Obama's political change platform.

[joanne keilah]

i'm really feeling u brotha on that, that so tru..only the inner person matters...

[Ingmar Northcott]

If that is true, Joanne Keilah, then why did Jah create an outer world? Was he bored, and therefore, thought that he would something extra than what matters alone? Surely the outer world then is a testing ground for the work that is done within. Perhaps you already agree with this, and was just shy about stating it? Such a conclusion would lead us to political involvement: Like Marley uniting Michael Manley and Edward Seaga at the One Love Peace Concert. Rastafari!

[Ingmar Northcott]

Political complacency, furthermore, contributes to any system of injustice, any world order in which the determining theme is injustice. Imagine if Martin Luther King, Jr. never stood up against racial injustice. Complacency, therefore, is concomitant with complicity. By being politically complacent we become accomplices of injustice.

[Negus Amlak]

Ises I,
This reasoning raises some interesting questions and i would say some very interesting answers, that can be seen upon closer inspection.
The term "anti-christ" had been attributed to many ones over the western history, and typically has been used as a title to basically demonize indiviuals, or who are deemded downpressors.
What most ones gnerally know about the concept of the anti-christ has been drawn from scriptures and prophecies from nostramamus to edgar cayce, urban legends and contemporary popculture etc...
So with this as the source of primary reference material, let us look at some of the so-called characteristics and then compare them with Barak obama. (please note that there are probably thousands of characteristic, ill just name a few)
1) It is written in Revelation that the name of the beast is 666
2) Deny Christ - 1st John
3) Man of Sin - 2nd Thes
4) Abomination of Desolation - Dan
5) Charasmatic world leader with sudden rise - nostradamus
6) Gifted with the power of speech
7) Islamic leader
8) Able to create miracles
9) Come as the champion of peace
10) Born of a jackel
There are more i could use, but for the sake of reasoning i will just name these few.
Do any of these match up with Obama?
Surprisingly this is not the first time i have heard of these ideas, from son of the widow, alien shape shifter, genectic clone and antichrist etc. all of which is debatable.
I will reason more on the next post, for now....
Peace and love Rastafari

[Cleopatra Glanville]

And they shall be known by there works

[Akita Fahzil]

Interesting topic. Nah worth di worry tho. Fi Jah bigga seen? Obama jus a brova tryna get in where he fit in... lol. jus like any of di other american president... fi dis reason i stay farrrr awayyy from dem tricks seen. It is truly hard to seperate when the economy is so F'd up, but yet... this is babylon. Wha more can dem force pon wi?

[Lioness Heart]

Truth in the I word sound power Empress Akita, Selah

[Imelchez]

Greetings, whether Obama is the anti-christ or not, of which I hope he is not and I dont think he is unless he demonstrate the anti-christ works before we rush to judgement, there will be a shift in the way the world view Black people who was deemed unintelligent, having no ability to lead or not smart enough to challenge complicated issues, there will be a shift in the moral of a lot of Black people selfesteem, there will be a shift in the psycology of Black people, anywhere a blackman stand he is going to feel at home and feel like he have the right to stand there, even in the white house,. and there must be a shift in the consciousness of the Black Human, so he can remember who he is, and take back what was stolen from him, and redeem himself and the world.

There are a lot of shifts going on in the universe, our world is evolving and so is the mind of the people, Black people has been held down for so long, so there must be an event like Obama to create a shift in the evolving of the Black pride and consciousness, so now the oppressor will have to run for cover for the Blackman is taking over.

I believe that the anti-christ is more likely to come out of the so-called israel, because their doctrine is based upon a anti-christ belief, because they dont belive that the Messiah has come yet, that is why they only accept the Torah and not the New Testement, and when you are anti anything or a person that means you are against that thing or person.

Now Ethiopia is the ony Jewish nation that fulfilled the Scripture that said after the Messiah has come there is no more need for the Ceremonial Law, that the so- called Jew still embrace, the scripture in the books of Moses states one should accept and recognized Christ as the Almighty God in human flesh and keep Christ's Laws that He teaches, Ethiopia did that as a Jewish state, who later became a Christian state after the baptisim of the Ethopian enoch in the acts of the apostles, so therefore they are for Christ and not anti-christ, because they fullfilled what Moses and the prophets have spoken from Jah.

The tele evangelists all embrace this israel even though this israel still maintain there anti-christ attitudes and doctrine, which will make it much easier for the anti-christ to rise up out of that sect of so-called anti-christ Jew, because these people were put there in the middle east to replace the true Israelites by the rothchild and other members of this elite group who are of a certain bloodline to control the central point of all trading route being that Jerusalem is the center of the world, therefore all the wealth of the world through trading must pass through there, which is one of the new world order plans.

HIM Emperor Haile selassie I is Israel king and it is written Israel King is Israel's God, and according to the scripture when it speaks of the assenscion of Christ, it said that the Angels that was there at Christ ascension said "Ye men of Galaliee why stand ye gazing up..?" the same Christ that you see ascend shall return in like manner and to me like manner does not mean descending from the sky because descend is the opposite of ascend, and the angel said like manner, so the only like manner, is that Christ was born of a woman and in that like manner shall He return being born of a woman, so just like Christ His Majesty is the full expression and manifestation of the Almighty God in flesh according to prophecy....Give thanks for the reasoning.

Imelchez

[Ras Brandon]

Exactly Iyah, Give Thanks and Ises!

[Nathan - InI Kingman]

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